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US Torpedos in the Beginning of WWII Were Surprisingly Defective and Useless

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......Not enough business executives and flag officers were hung for this travesty.
Unfortunately the torpedo problems are largely due to incompetence on many levels. Design, testing, administration.....

One interesting point is that the skipper of USS Barb had his crew re-spring the firing pins in the contact exploders, which demonstrably produced an admirable success rate.

One man who absolutely should have been publicly hung was US House rep Andrew May.

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/in...-submarine-crewmen-during-wwii.html?firefox=1
 

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As in every war ever fought by any country, the Average Joe is filled with patriotic fervor and is willing to fight and sacrifice for the good of the country, while the politicians, bureaucrats, and businessmen are out to get their "fair share". Sometimes I think Russia and China had the right idea about occasional purges to removes the cancers.
 

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Cmdr Flucky of the Barb, actually shelled Japan from his sub.

He was not your average sailor........wrote a book I bought long ago.."Thunder Below" about his exploits, sinking Japs.
 

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Cmdr Flucky of the Barb, actually shelled Japan from his sub.

He was not your average sailor........wrote a book I bought long ago.."Thunder Below" about his exploits, sinking Japs.
"The History Guy" did a great little video on this.
 

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The book (and movie) many are referencing about the faulty torpedos is “Run silent, run deep.” A very good book. The author writes about the failure rate of the early torpedoes, and the project he led while he was injured to identify some of the problems.

Some of the other discussions is sadly entertaining. The Mustang started its development over a year into the war, but before the US was in it.

What if… What if the Germans had scooped up 400,000 British and allied troops at Dunkirk? What if the Germans hadn’t stopped bombing the RAF and started bombing cities instead? What if we hadn’t broken the German and Japanese codes? What if Hitler didn’t make a string of absolutely horrible strategic mistakes? What if the Japanese didn’t have such absolute disrespect for the character of Americans? What if Hitler supported (instead of sabotaged) the production of the ME 262 and 163?
There are so many decision-points in something like a world war. Of course, it doesn’t mean that many people weren’t criminally negligent in how wars are fought, and how weapons and supplies are sourced.
 

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The Japanese Type 93 Long Lance torpedo was the best torpedo of the war. Longer range, faster, less observable, and with a bigger warhead than comparable weapons.
 

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At least 50% of US torpedos were defective throughout WWII. Sometimes so badly they'd do a U-turn and kill the launching sub.
Same thing happened at the end of the war for the Germans. Great book called "Shadow Divers" talks about a German sub of the coast of New Jersey at the end of WWII that met it's fate by a U-turn torpedo.

 

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Cmdr Flucky of the Barb, actually shelled Japan from his sub.

He was not your average sailor........wrote a book I bought long ago.."Thunder Below" about his exploits, sinking Japs.
Terrific book. Need to reread that one this winter.
 
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