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Is the CMP coming to the end?

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Looking on the CMP sales page it seems the M1 pickings are really getting slim.

Has anyone seen any reports from them (CMP) that there are more Garands still to come?
 

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When the ARMY canceled the DCM program, and relinquished all materiel support for civilian marksmanship training to the CMP corporation, the descent began.

Only if marksmanship events can be AFFORDABLE, is marksmanship at any widespread level going to be sustainable.

The U.S. government supports genital mutilation, and aggrandizement of mental illness.

We are very much ON OUR OWN.
 

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It's inevitable. If I had extra cash, I'd be buying them up!

Eli

I've considered ordering another one myself but the pics of recent deliveries with heavy pitting and bad bores on the RG's and pitting on most parts except the new barrels on the $1100.00 experts have kind of made me a bit leery of them.

They seem to really be scraping the bottom of the 80 some thousand Philippine rifles and I haven't heard of any more in the pipeline.
 

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As I recall when this was being discussed a few years ago, the CMP knows it's gonna run out of stuff someday but puts the money into some legal entity, trust or endowment or whatever it is, that generates income and then will use that income and any other income generated from it's activities to continue operations into the future.
 

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I took delivery of a CMP RM1 "Expert Grade" in July. It is a SA from '47 and a real mix master
of late issue parts from anybody who had a hand in Mfg it. Disassembled to inspect it all.
BUT ......... There was zero signs of any pitting or had been corroded . . . . Excellent condition ! !
 

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They closed down the South Store at the start of covid and said they won't open again until all mail orders are caught up. Although, the CMP is stocking the store at Talladega Markmanship Park, here is an inventory of what was in stock last week, 9/10/2022

One rifle per person per day.

SA/HRA SG, 150!!! Overall excellent inventory, rifles in very nice condition.

Numerous 5 digits and 6 digits

One with WRA lockbar rear sight

Barrel readings on most were excellent, 0+-1+. Good number had VAR Danish barrels. Most had replacement barrels.

Stocks were 40/60 USGI/CMP. About 10 stocks had SA GAW cartouche’s, one had EMcF stock and another with ordnance wheel only stamp which is really uncommon. One IHC numbered stock.

2 USMC 0-66 rifles.

WRA RG 5, rough.
 

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CMP wants a revival? Get the next conservative president to bring the 250,000 M-14s Klinton sent to the Balkan states returned here where they belong and will be loved, tell the anti-gunners to kiss his ass, have them weld the stupid full-auto button and sell them at competitive M-14 clone prices.

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Personally 8 rifles per year is extreme, many in my eyes, taking advantage of this buy'n 'em to sell for profit. Maybe they should consider a policy change of one rifle per year. I knew a guy, family of 6, who each year bought 8 each and resold every single one of them.
 

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I took delivery of a CMP RM1 "Expert Grade" in July. It is a SA from '47 and a real mix master
of late issue parts from anybody who had a hand in Mfg it. Disassembled to inspect it all.
BUT ......... There was zero signs of any pitting or had been corroded . . . . Excellent condition ! !
'47? ;)

I purchased a Expert in .308 last year when they were first brought out. Mine is a post-war HRA. It has some pretty deep pitting below the wood line but nothing showing above.

-E-
 

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As I recall when this was being discussed a few years ago, the CMP knows it's gonna run out of stuff someday but puts the money into some legal entity, trust or endowment or whatever it is, that generates income and then will use that income and any other income generated from it's activities to continue operations into the future.
In 2019, the fund had a value of $188.6 million. It is intended to have the fund support CMP activities in perpetuity.

-E-
 

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All those M1 rifles and M1 carbines in South Korea...
CMP can't touch them thru the DoD.
Importers can't touch them because of President Obama's "Rose garden Speech" blocking the import of US origin surplus.
Century had them all bought and paid for, had the paperwork all in place and approved and was starting to load them when the President killed the deal.
I have spoken the lead person Century had on the ground at the depot in South Korea, there was a LOT of very nice guns in that buy.
All the training and used guns were sold off in the late 1980's.
They are of no use to South Korea as they don't have ammo.

Richard
 

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I've considered ordering another one myself but the pics of recent deliveries with heavy pitting and bad bores on the RG's and pitting on most parts except the new barrels on the $1100.00 experts have kind of made me a bit leery of them.

They seem to really be scraping the bottom of the 80 some thousand Philippine rifles and I haven't heard of any more in the pipeline.
Send your packet in. You cannot buy a M1 Garand anywhere else at the prices available through the CMP.

I got a Service grade M1 for $750 last year. Only took 22 weeks but they deliver it to your front door.
 

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All those M1 rifles and M1 carbines in South Korea...
CMP can't touch them thru the DoD.
Importers can't touch them because of President Obama's "Rose garden Speech" blocking the import of US origin surplus.
Century had them all bought and paid for, had the paperwork all in place and approved and was starting to load them when the President killed the deal.
I have spoken the lead person Century had on the ground at the depot in South Korea, there was a LOT of very nice guns in that buy.
All the training and used guns were sold off in the late 1980's.
They are of no use to South Korea as they don't have ammo.

Richard
So how did the Philippine M1's come home in 2018 if Obama had blocked the importation of US origin surplus. Not trying to be argumentative; just trying to understand.

I had read in various articles that S. Korea doesn't consider them to be "loaners" and that they own them outright. Either way, they should be brought home.

-E-
 

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Send your packet in. You cannot buy a M1 Garand anywhere else at the prices available through the CMP.

I got a Service grade M1 for $750 last year. Only took 22 weeks but they deliver it to your front door.

I get it. I've bought an M1 and a carbine from them in the past.

I'm just a bit leery of the condition of the rifles they have left.
 
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