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HELP ... Show me some Wood !! .. NEED SOME HELP .. READ PLEASE

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Not a bad virgin post here if I do say so myself: :)

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Two Armscorp "T-48 .308 Match" from around 1990; their serial numbers are about 100 digits apart.

I bought the standard model new at a gun show in around 1990; it's unfired. I wanted one then that looked like FN's submissions for the old "replace the Garand" trials - and here is was. (A "T-48" no less. :) )

Holy-coincidence, Batman: The FALO appeared 30 years later as an online sell-by-owner in Nov. 2021.

Per the seller:
"Excellent and possibly unfired Israeli heavy barrel FAL (FALO) on a pre-ban Armscorp receiver. This rifle was made between 1989 and 1993 on NOS HB FALO parts kits from Israel. Its is complete with the bi-pod, coupler, and flash hider. Very difficult to improve upon. The bore an internals are immaculate. The barrel is original Israeli."

He was unloading some "too pretty to shoot" items. Some may cry but both of these are in that category for me.

Comment: If a guy had just the FALO it might feel like an unscratched-itch. But the two together are a match made in Saive heaven!
 
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Not a bad virgin post here if I do say so myself: :)

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Two Armscorp "T-48 .308 Match" from around 1990; their serial numbers are 103 digits apart.

I bought the standard model new at a gun show in around 1990; it's unfired. I wanted one then that looked like FN's submissions for the old "replace the Garand" trials - and here is was. (A "T-48" no less. :) )

Holy-coincidence, Batman: The FALO appeared 30 years later as an online sell-by-owner in Nov. 2021.

Per the seller:
"Excellent and possibly unfired Israeli heavy barrel FAL (FALO) on a pre-ban Armscorp receiver. This rifle was made between 1989 and 1993 on NOS HB FALO parts kits from Israel. Its is complete with the bi-pod, coupler, and flash hider. Very difficult to improve upon. The bore an internals are immaculate. The barrel is original Israeli."

He was unloading some "too pretty to shoot" items. Some may cry but both of these are in that category for me.

Comment: If a guy had just the FALO it might feel like an unscratched-itch. But the two together are a match made in Saive heaven!
Just a comment: The trials T48 had a long flash hider. A very nice pair of FALs.
 

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The trials T48 had a long flash hider.
Made me look - from Musgrave & Nelson, The World's Assault Rifles and Automatic Carbines, 1967:

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Yep, pretty long. The wood looks right-on though.
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This one from from Ezell, Small Arms of the World, 11th edition, 1977 - it shows one that appears not wood.

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Respectfully, you have a long way to go to convert to a T48.
The buttstock on the T48 is a model A, pistol grip is a "winter" model where the trigger guard is folded into the grip when wearing mittens, the carry handle is wood, the top cover is stripper clip pattern, the front sight is open ears. Your short flash hider is left hand threaded and the T48 is right hand threaded and your early wood handguard needs a sling swivel.
Personally, I would not attempt this on your very nice FAL. The only things I would change is the hand guard to a new set of plastic bipod or non-bipod cut pattern. Also, remove the high rear sight & Israeli front sight gas block with a set of lower R&F sights. This will give you the look of a FN factory South African era contract FAL.

On the Ezell page the wood handguards w/3 vents is the 3rd model. The second wood model had 2 vents and 1 hole for the gas port. You have the 1st model which vents through the top and the smoke from the barrel may hamper the shooter's line of sight.
Additionally, the sling swivel on the T48 front was unacceptable for the way American troops "Sling Arms" as it would place the buttstock around the trooper's knees. The sling swivel was finally moved to the center of the T48 and in about the same place as the swivel is on the American T44. The T48 swivel was held by a ban type clamp around the handguard & held by a screw just behind the 3 barrel vents.

I recommend a copy of The Metric FAL by Blake Stevens for a through evaluation of the FAL rifle and its variants.
 

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Much oblied for all that lore.

I never intended to mess with these at all actually, I just wanted something that resembled the old T48 without necessarily mimicking it.

I appreciate the Israeli connections too. After a Mirage 3, for me nothing evokes the excitement and accomplishments of the Six Day War (and the tragedies) like an "Izzy" Fal, and the FALO.

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ETA: I've been looking more closely at those 3-vent handguards with the long flash hider, and they are gorgeous. Per previous observations, these nice Armscorps rifles are good to go as-is, but down the road a more authentic "T-48" might be in the cards here too. :)
 
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Armscorp made a clone t48 tribute kinda rifle. Not really close to the real t48 but the receivers said T48 . The 3 slot hg are US made high standard version. Only like 13 ever made and were the last ones tested and only ones to pass all the test. Fn made the first ones with the solid wood fluted hg and maybe some 3 slot hg, H&R US T48 used the the 2 slot solid wood l1a1 style hg. They are all cool to me though. If they run they are fun.
 
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Armscorp made a clone t48 tribute kinda rifle. Not really close to the real t48 but the receivers said T48 .
Precisely! To those of us who came of age as gun people with the pictures in those reference books and never expected to see these things in our living rooms, that's worth something.
It was worth something to me when I bought the very attractive Armscorps base rifle in 1990, and when 31 years later bought the sexy Armscorps FALO version presumably made a few weeks or months earlier.
 

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Im cloning one now. A High Standard T48, only like 13 made. Been working on it a few yrs. Building or buying one part at a time. I never thought Id ever have an Fal or L1a1. Could of bought em cheap 25 yrs ago but wasnt interested in them at all. Id pick em up at gunshows thinking man that 400 $ gun is too heavy. Now I love them. I did not know any history or how many variants there were back then. Very interesting rifles to me.
 

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Im cloning one now. A High Standard T48, only like 13 made. Been working on it a few yrs. Building or buying one part at a time. I never thought Id ever have an Fal or L1a1. Could of bought em cheap 25 yrs ago but wasnt interested in them at all. Id pick em up at gunshows thinking man that 400 $ gun is too heavy. Now I love them. I did not know any history or how many variants there were back then. Very interesting rifles to me.
Plus, compared to a lot else around then, they were expensive. "Why spend so much for that old gun when I could buy this brand new mini 14 for less?"
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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I love the pic with the Tesla album in the background!!! One of my favorite bands!!
Thanks! One of my favorites too, only got to see them once but the place was tiny, they played a killer set and the show was 3hrs long. Funny, you're the second person to compliment that album on here. The files has some good taste in guns and tunes that's for sure 🤣
 

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Well, 2 years ago I bought a type B stock. Nice one made by sliver crescent. Seller shipped it. I found the box and all its stuffings when I got home one day. Ups had left it at out to the dogs instead of walking a few more steps and placing it on coverd and gated porch. I looked for that stock for a week until I gave up. Evidently it had been buried. I found it today in a cow pasture next to my driveway. Lol. Heres before and after pics. It was the lighter colord one. Maybe I can get $500 for it on broker. Gotta get yellowhand check this out. See if he can do anything with it. Ha ha. I gave it a good scrubbing with acetone and a dish brush and scotchbrite . Mite just have to clamo it glue it and screw it and use it on a rat fal build kinda like adam762 did. Wrap a few rounds of black duct tape on her and roll with it
 

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Well, 2 years ago I bought a type B stock. Nice one made by sliver crescent. Seller shipped it. I found the box and all its stuffings when I got home one day. Ups had left it at out to the dogs instead of walking a few more steps and placing it on coverd and gated porch. I looked for that stock for a week until I gave up. Evidently it had been buried. I found it today in a cow pasture next to my driveway. Lol. Heres before and after pics. It was the lighter colord one. Maybe I can get $500 for it on broker.
My man, that is horrible. At least you can have closure now that you found it?
 

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Ya..dag gummit . Thats bout all I can say..well it does have the bfpu look for sure now. Or should I say csf look(Cow $hit field). Despite the huge crack and missing wood its still hard and sturdy wood. The title of this thread is Show me some wood! Im shootin for the win for ugliest wood in here contest. Lol
 
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