WyoRanger
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So, I've decided to get my first suppressor. This one will be a titanium 7.62 rifle can, with the current contenders being the CGS Hyperion K and the Dead Air Nomad-Ti. Intended hosts are:
I know that with titanium cans, durability is a consideration. Rest assured I won't be doing any mag dumps, bump fire, or FA stuff with this can. However, I do plan to use it for carbine courses such as Front Sight's 4-Day Practical Rifle or Thunder Ranch's Urban Rifle, which are primarily controlled pairs followed by at least 30-second pauses. In that vein, the Hyperion K seems to be more durable than the Nomad-Ti, but I don't know that it would matter.
Another consideration is adaptability - and the Nomad is the clear winner on this front. Any mounting option I want, separate 5.56 & 7.62-mm front caps, even the E-brake if I want. The Hyperion is direct-thread only, and the only option is vented or solid front caps. I asked if they would be coming out with 5.56-specific front caps, and the reply was "I doubt we'll be making any 5.56 front caps since they'd still need to be large enough to pass a 7.62 size projectile safely because people will accidentally put their 5.56 front cap on a 7.62 host and fire through it." WTF? Many silencer manufacturers make separate 5.56 & 7.62 front caps, and because they're removable, if you have a baffle strike you can replace the front cap! Also, just engrave it "5.56!"
I was not impressed with CGS's response to my questions. I asked about boring out their 1/2"-28 adapters, specifically mentioning the thin barrels on my Savage & FAL, and the response was "the barrels should be larger than .63" or so in diameter." I already mentioned the reply to my question about smaller-bore caps, that many other manufacturers provide. I asked about operability on semi-auto 5.56 rifles, and I got "You can use any of the CGS rifle silencers on 5.56 and the impact to host firearm operating system will be extremely minimal if you even notice at all." Uh, there is a massive back-pressure difference in testing between the Hyperion K, Helios, and Hyperion full-size suppressors - how can the impact of all of them be "extremely minimal?"
Cost is similar, but I have found the Hyperion K for about $100 less than the Nomad-Ti. Given the Nomad's advantages, I don't know if that's worth it, but the Hyperion should blow less toxic gas in my face, so there's that.
Does anyone have experience with either of these cans on semi-auto rifles? How would you proceed? Is there another suppressor out there that is under 7" long, under 11 ounces weight, and under $1000 that I should consider?
- Savage 10FCM in .308 (old Scout model), 20" barrel, OD is .550" at the muzzle
- Imbel FAL in .308, 21" barrel, with DSA adjustable gas plug
- CZ Bren 805 in 5.56x45, 16.2" barrel, threaded 1/2"-28
- Sig Sauer 556 Classic in 5.56x45, 16.5" barrel, threaded 1/2"-28
I know that with titanium cans, durability is a consideration. Rest assured I won't be doing any mag dumps, bump fire, or FA stuff with this can. However, I do plan to use it for carbine courses such as Front Sight's 4-Day Practical Rifle or Thunder Ranch's Urban Rifle, which are primarily controlled pairs followed by at least 30-second pauses. In that vein, the Hyperion K seems to be more durable than the Nomad-Ti, but I don't know that it would matter.
Another consideration is adaptability - and the Nomad is the clear winner on this front. Any mounting option I want, separate 5.56 & 7.62-mm front caps, even the E-brake if I want. The Hyperion is direct-thread only, and the only option is vented or solid front caps. I asked if they would be coming out with 5.56-specific front caps, and the reply was "I doubt we'll be making any 5.56 front caps since they'd still need to be large enough to pass a 7.62 size projectile safely because people will accidentally put their 5.56 front cap on a 7.62 host and fire through it." WTF? Many silencer manufacturers make separate 5.56 & 7.62 front caps, and because they're removable, if you have a baffle strike you can replace the front cap! Also, just engrave it "5.56!"
I was not impressed with CGS's response to my questions. I asked about boring out their 1/2"-28 adapters, specifically mentioning the thin barrels on my Savage & FAL, and the response was "the barrels should be larger than .63" or so in diameter." I already mentioned the reply to my question about smaller-bore caps, that many other manufacturers provide. I asked about operability on semi-auto 5.56 rifles, and I got "You can use any of the CGS rifle silencers on 5.56 and the impact to host firearm operating system will be extremely minimal if you even notice at all." Uh, there is a massive back-pressure difference in testing between the Hyperion K, Helios, and Hyperion full-size suppressors - how can the impact of all of them be "extremely minimal?"
Cost is similar, but I have found the Hyperion K for about $100 less than the Nomad-Ti. Given the Nomad's advantages, I don't know if that's worth it, but the Hyperion should blow less toxic gas in my face, so there's that.
Does anyone have experience with either of these cans on semi-auto rifles? How would you proceed? Is there another suppressor out there that is under 7" long, under 11 ounces weight, and under $1000 that I should consider?
